Tuesday, December 26, 2023

Trip to India - How India is fast becoming a cashless society & info for NRIs on how to participate in this

 I have been extremely impressed by how fast India has become a cashless society. Of course, most of us in the west carry very little cash and use our credit cards and increasingly the mobile devices to pay. So why am I so impressed. It is because of the brilliant technology and associated security that has made this to be so ubiquitous here in such a short time. For those who are not familiar, it is practically everywhere. Even all the street vendors participate in this and there are jokes that even some of the beggers do.

First, a bit about the technical details. What powers all of this is UPI or Universal Payment Interface. You can read here a nice and short explanation about it. In short, UPI involves a payer and a recipient. A payer can pay what is due to any recipient who has set up their UPI. You can pay in a few different ways. The most prevalent method is scanning a unique qr code that the recipient displays and entering the amount you need to pay through a UPI app. You can also pay by the person's registered phone number or a unique UPI ID associated with them. Like bill pay you can schedule to pay your bills as well as recharge your phone.

It would be impossible these days to find places where UPI is not accepted. Perhaps temples. They should set up the Hundis to to be UPI compatible, which apparently has been in the works. As we know many wash off their sins by donating a boat load of their black money, so cash must still remain an option. Everything through UPI is immensely traceable!

In order to participate in this technology revolution, you need to have some basic things:

  • A local phone. It can be a physical phone from another country that is unlocked and you manage to get a local SIM and a local number.

  • A local bank account
If you are an NRI having both is kind of challenging. Though the Indian government has promised that NRI accounts can be linked to UPI systems, it has not happened yet, so having an NRO or NRE account is not helpful. You need an account in a local bank. And that is no easy task.
  • In order to create a local bank account, you need an Aadhaar card. Most NRIs don't have it, so tough luck!

  • The next option is to use your PAN card, which a lot of NRIs have. But there is a catch. You need to own a property here and present proof of address such as an electric bill. This also is not applicable for many.
If these two don't apply to you as an NRI, you can stop right here! You can use your credit card itself in many places, but it is not accepted everywhere. There are some places where "foreign" credit card will fail to process. And touch luck with street vendors. I you give them cash, many look at you like you are from another planet. Once a street vendor, 80 or so years old woman, asked me for my phone so she could teach me how to use Google Pay on it to pay her! I had to tell her it doesn't work, but she thought I am a luddite who didn't know how to use it.

There are many UPI clients available all of which work fine. This is yet another beauty of the system. They are all tied to a central registry of UPI IDs. GPay, PayTM and PhonePe are the most popular. By the way, if you retained your US phone, the new versions of Google Pay do provide a way to scan and pay, but when you scan, it will look for UPI setup to pay and you will fail.

To start, you should have a phone with local number. This again requires Aadhar card, though there is a mention that you can get local number as a foreign national. When I tried once, this didn't work because they wanted some proof of association with a local address. Wherever you are required to have Aadhar, like, using it to get a phone,  they take photographs, fingerprint scans (or eye scan) to validate that the right person is involved. Mind blowing security which makes all these trustworthy. With the local phone number in hand, you get to your bank.

Once you have the proof required, getting a local account set up is a piece of cake, but there are a lot of terminology that everyone assumes you know, but you are unlikely to. I, to date, don't understand what a current account is! We took one of our relatives to the bank where they have an account and it was immensely helpful. So many procedures are local and no one explains what they are and you are supposed to know. At the time you apply for the local account you should link it to your local phone number. This link is vital for UPI.

You cannot set up UPI on your phone yet. You need to receive a debit card from the bank first. They either can send it to you by courier or you can pick it up in the bank. In our case, there was a miscommunication and as a result delay. Apparently the bank wanted us to come and pick up the passbook and the card in person, but we were waiting for the courier.

All the banks have their own apps, so you download that and set it up. Their security is rock solid. You need to set up a login PIN and a transaction PIN which need to be two different sequence of numbers. They don't tell you until you fail a couple of times! I was so eager to set up the UPI without realizing that I needed my debit card. I tried a few things and failed repeatedly and was locked out for 24 hours! Yuck.

Once you have a debit card, you need to first activate it on an ATM machine. Then you can proceed to set up your UPI information, where, you need to enter the last 6 digits of debit card and expiry date. After you complete all these and set up a UPI ID, you are ready.

PayTM and GPay can be invoked and you can provide some basic information, such as your mobile number and the bank info and they gather necessary information automatically and you are READY!

All through the process you will get a million OTP messages on your local phone that you need to be prepared for. I was very impressed how this whole thing has worked flawlessly so far! And, man, the security is pretty tight. I HIGHLY recommend it for those for whom the basic requirements can be met. It is so easy and fulfilling.

I use GPay, so I scan the QR code and pay. I have set up UPI lite where I don't need to provide PIN if the purchase is a small amount, which is great. For larger purchases, I need to provide the UPI pin, which you have to set up. It is cute that in most cases, when you finish paying, there is a little machine through which the recipient hears that the transaction is complete (in English). In a few cases, I needed to show my phone to the vendor. 

Also, based on a recommendation from a friend, I don't keep a lot of money in my local bank account to avoid fraudsters stealing the funds. I have no idea how this happens honestly but it is better to be cautious.

Again, the brilliance of all of this is that the system operates with pretty light tech for those involved. Vendors can display these QR codes wherever there is good cell signal because thats all you need. And cell signal here is fantastic... No need for credit card machines and all that jazz. 

Now, I have always wondered what would stop a fraudster from sticking their QR code on top of a vendor's QR code. Of course, the payer will pay once and the vendor will not receive it, so it will be caught soon. If it is a very busy place, the vendor may just look the phones of people for positive payments and say OK until after a few transactions realizes that something is not right. 

One of my relatives explained that it is not that simple. If a vendor detects is soon, they can force the payer to pay them regardless before the goods are delivered and the onus is on the payer to report and request a reversal. But most importantly, the security is so tight that the fraudster must use a bank account that is tied to an aadhaar number, so the authorities can catch the fraudster! 

This is a major difference compared to the US, where there are so many electronic banks where accounts can be set up through stolen or fake credentials such as social security numbers and the fraudster closes the accounts and moves on. 

Now taht I have UPI all set up and working beautifully,  I can go back to the street vendor, the 80 plus old woman, and look straight in her eyes and scan and pay! My pride has been restored!!!

 

Friday, December 22, 2023

Trip to India - My Opinions on Metro (Awesome) Ride Hailing Services like Ola and Uber (They Suck!)

We have been in India for about 2 weeks now, about a week of it in Chennai. Getting around in Chennai to visit friends and family or attending music concerts during the December season requires transportation as we do not have our own vehicle. This is about my brief experience.

Metro is Fantastic

The good news is that the Chennai Metro service is fabulous. It is clean, timely and gets you from place to place much faster than any other means. I have taken it a few times from the Ashok Nagar station to various other locations, such as Thirumangalam, Central Station/Ripon Building etc. I want to try out some of the other routes and plan to take one to Alandur and switch to the line that runs to the beach to get off in the Thirumaylai station.

I am not sure how the locals feel about the cost, but for me it seems very reasonable. Ashok Nagar to Thirumangalam one way costs Rs 30 and to Central costs Rs 40. The wayfinding in the stations are fabulous and it is very accessible for those with handicaps. There are "lifts" in all stations and escalators. "Lifts" can be operated without the use of hands (a COVID time innovation). There is a pedal you press to get the elevator to come to the floor you are in. Once you get in, no need to press any buttons as it stops in each floor (maximum of 4 I have seen). Of course, unless you are the fidgety type and you want the doors to close faster.

I just LOVE traveling by them.

The catch - even the Ashok Nagar station is 15 minutes by walk from where we are staying and the lines and stops are carefully selected based on likely demand. As a result, you will not find that it covers the entire gamut, which is a near impossibility anyways. Sometimes you can take an auto to a nearby station and then hop on the metro.

Ride Hailing Services - A Disaster!

I hate them! But they are a necessary evil for reasons I mentioned above. 

  • They just don't work as intended. I get it that it will never work in India the way it works in western countries, but it is a mess.

  • Typically, you go to the app and ask for a vehicle. It takes a good chunk of time to get one, so build enough lead time. It is easier to get one if the distances are longer and you want to get to some of the more popular spots (where they can get other riders).

  • Always, the driver calls after accepting the ride to make sure that you are paying cash! OK, I do, but forcing me to do this is a failure of the system. Drivers always have a story to tell as to how if it is any other method, the money first goes to Uber or Ola and it takes them a lot of time to credit the drivers the money. They also complain that the division of money between them and these companies are unfair. OK, then why did you sign up with Uber or Ola? 

  • I never get cars that look anything like what they portray in the app. More often than not, they are beat up cars, with seats torn, very little or no A/C (despite the fact we ask for a vehicle with one), and one thing I can't stand - they are smelly (so I double mask at an additional cost to me).

  • Regardless of the vehicle you get, soon after accepting the ride, in addition to confirming the payment as cash, they ask you what is the app showing as the payment. Apparently they don't see it. This drives me up the wall and I refuse to say it. Some cancel the ride and move on.

  • Depending on how desperate I am, I ask them how much do they think the ride is worth and if it is within a reasonable range I tell them no problem, even if it is higher.

  • When I go alone, I really prefer autos. They are airy, and air washes off any bad smells for the most part, except when you are stuck in traffic and the smell of the surroundings is an issue. Mask handles it. In auto you encounter external smells infrequently due to things like open sewers nearby or Koovam etc. which no one can control.

  • Every single time, the driver will tell us that due to metro they are being diverted and it costs them petrol and "ஏதாவது பாத்து குடுங்க சார்". Well, when you accepted the ride, did you not know this???

  • I always pay them more than what the app says, but it irks me that they have these excuses to ask for more that makes no sense. I double what the app says if the driver does not call me to ask what the app says or has a sob story. So far this has happened twice.

  • Now, why this whole thing sucks in addition - these companies are doing a disservice to the drivers. When a ride from KK Nagar to Mylapore in an auto is priced at Rs 130, I feel it is really low. The local folks, please don't shoot me if you feel othersie.

  • I understand it is demand pricing, but even at peak I have seen this go only to Rs 180 or so. Uber is worse than Ola in lowballing these. As a result my success rate in finding a ride is far better in Ola than Uber.
In short, with all these ways drivers are finding to defeat the system, I am really not sure how this whole thing is working. Many a time I see no difference, especially with autos, going to the corner of the street and hailing one rather than using the app. Once I took one guy from the corner of the street who was fabulous. I took his info and use WhatsApp to ask if he is here and available. Much better.

IMHO - What does Chennai need

With all the advances in technologies driving India, the ground transportation is HORRIBLE. Roads are a mess and bumpy in most areas. The roads are crowded always. No one follows rules, because if they did, they will take days to go from one place to the next.

And there is absolutely no place to expand the roads. So, let us innovate on vertical transport. I don't mean building flyovers or an entire road system that is elevated. It is costly and will take eons to complete and will cause tremendous to current traffic.

So, let us explore drone transportation system. If interested read "13 Manned Passenger Drones and Drone Taxis That Carry Humans (Updated July 2021)" Photo taken from this article.


It will be so cool. There can be a hop on hop off during the Music season where you can go from one Sabha to another. Actually the drone can hover over briefly so we can sample the music for a little to decide whether to get off or not :)